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  1. silner silner

    I have to agree » RD @satipera !Bitcoin will never be allowed to succeed http://b1t.it/bVfi

    about 9 months ago from identi.ca at Wolverhampton, England, United Kingdom
    1. David Haberthür habi

      @silner why 'not allowed'? who can hinder it? first the geeks adopt it, then it will go mainstream #

      about 9 months ago from Adium at Berne, Bern, Switzerland
      1. silner silner

        @habi I think authority may even go so far as to break its own rules to stop Bitcoin. It could destabilize the stock markets if allowed

        about 9 months ago from identi.ca at Wolverhampton, England, United Kingdom
        1. David Haberthür habi

          @silner bitcoin is not related to the stock market, and - from my understanding - it's in a pretty unbreakable state now. humongous effort would need to be taken to maliciously take over the block chain...

          about 9 months ago from Adium at Berne, Bern, Switzerland
          1. silner silner

            @habi I'm guessing the more of the economy is hidden, the more it weakens the stock markets? It was an assumption

            about 9 months ago from identi.ca at Wolverhampton, England, United Kingdom
          2. silner silner

            @habi It may well be unbreakable, but trust in it can be broken if enough exchanges are compromised, for example

            about 9 months ago from identi.ca at Wolverhampton, England, United Kingdom
            1. David Haberthür habi

              @silner yes indeed. but as far as i understand it, the block chain is now so big and distributed, that a malicious attack is extremely unfeasible. a malicious attacker would need more computing power than all the other people combined...

              about 9 months ago from web at Berne, Bern, Switzerland
              1. lnxwalt lnxwalt

                @habi I need to do more research into it, but from what I have read about BTC, it uses sound crypto. Guessing that malicious computation could happen, but unlikely to breach the currency. Probably more likely to have wallet breaches or fraudulent sale/purchase of goods than anything else.

                about 9 months ago from imicroblog.net
          3. lnxwalt lnxwalt

            @habi @silner # is not related to stocks or investments, but as @encycl has pointed out, the traders have gotten involved in a big way (that’s why you can now get daily reports of BC vs Euro/Dollar/Pound/Yen). It is the traders that risk getting bank & securities regulators involved in bitcoins.

            about 9 months ago from imicroblog.net
            1. silner silner

              @lnxwalt I didn't realise that. That's very interesting. I wonder what their interest is; purely curiosity?

              about 9 months ago from identi.ca at Wolverhampton, England, United Kingdom
            2. encycl encycl

              @lnxwalt @silner @habi yes traders with supercomputers are looking for any market they can exploit frictions...even millisecond discrepancy in price reporting.

              about 9 months ago from whidbey.im
              1. mcnalu mcnalu

                The bitcoin network is well designed against abusive application of supercomputing power. I can see weaknesses in the exchanges though.

                about 9 months ago from identi.ca at Glasgow, Scotland, United Kingdom
              2. kevingranade kevingranade

                @encycl I think BTC's built-in transaction cost is a good defense against microtransaction trading.

                about 9 months ago from status.linuxwrangling.com
              3. David Haberthür habi

                @encycl the transaction cost would hinder this. and also that BTC transactions are far from instantaneous, they need to be confirmed by multiple clients, which can take considerable time.

                about 9 months ago from web at Berne, Bern, Switzerland
          4. lnxwalt lnxwalt

            After watching the way US went after other electronic currencies, I’ve not been willing to try bitcoin myself.

            about 9 months ago from imicroblog.net
            1. David Haberthür habi

              @lnxwalt it's fairly easy, you can trade BTC at https://mtgox.com/. and even though i'm not in it for the money, I made 35 % profit since I started trading some months ago...

              about 9 months ago from web at Berne, Bern, Switzerland
              1. lnxwalt lnxwalt

                @habi If I was going to get involved with BTC it would only be using them to buy and sell products and services. To me financial trading (any kind: stocks, bonds, precious metals, collectables) is high-stakes gambling.

                about 9 months ago from imicroblog.net
                1. David Haberthür habi

                  @lnxwalt of course. i bought some BTC to pay for some goods, the rest sits semi-idly in my wallet at Mt. Gox. It's a fairly small amount which can also be taken as gambling-money...

                  about 9 months ago from web at Berne, Bern, Switzerland
      2. silner silner

        @habi I hope I'm wrong though

        about 9 months ago from identi.ca at Wolverhampton, England, United Kingdom